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  1. Kevin
    January 8, 2009

    I've owned the Whisperlite Internationale for quite a few years, and am always pleased with its performance. Burns just about any fuel you throw at it (some burn more efficiently and cleaner, of course) and is bomb-proof.

  2. Earlylite
    January 8, 2009

    I'm leaning toward the MSR simmerlite myself. It's not a coincidence that it is the lightest in the bunch. I won't need the simmering function to melt snow, and I like the fact that you can clean the MSRs by shaking them. I don't know if that works, but it sounds easy. Stoves that require the purchase of an annual maintenance kit sound cranky.

  3. mrmatthewpaul
    January 8, 2009

    How safe to use it in a tent To cook as well as warm the tent

    • Bill Schmurdle
      November 28, 2013

      OK to use a stove inside your tent if you:
      a. Never spill anything
      b. Have a fireproof tent, and
      c. Can tolerate high levels of carbon monoxide.

      For the sake of clarity, I am being sarcastic as hell. NEVER fire up your stove in your tent unless you are desperate, and even then your tent must have an “expedition tent” vent.

  4. Earlylite
    January 8, 2009

    Using white gas in a tent for cooking or warming is incredibly dangerous. I don't think you should ever do this. You are begging for death from a fireball or carbon monoxide poisoning. Seriously, russian roulette is safer.

  5. Chris (i-cjw.com)
    January 8, 2009

    On the subject of cannister stoves for winter, I wonder if you've seen the <a href"http://www.rei.com/product/769449&quot; rel="nofollow">JetBoil Helios system? The inverted cartridge means it draws off a constant propane/(iso)butane liquid mix – which means efficiency doesn't fall (as you don't simply end up burning off all the propane) – and there's very little evaporative energy loss to chill the catridge below its vapor point. The specs say it works to -10 degrees F.

    I'm a big fan of their PCS system (and can usually get it working well even in cold temperatures by keeping the catridge warm – you do need propane mix catridges though). I'm tempted to take a look at the Helios, and see if it can be converted for use with the PCS cup to lighten the load.

  6. Earlylite
    January 9, 2009

    I've seen it, but haven't looked at it closely or tried it. I believe the theory behind turning the canister upside down is that it compensates for the pressure loss when your fuel gets low. I saw an article about this on BPL. In a liquid stove, you can compensate for this by pumping. Definitely worth a try since the safety improvement of canisters over white gas is indisputable. Nasty stuff that white gas.

  7. bigR
    January 12, 2009

    I have the Msr Dragonfly and if you look at the MSR site, it will burn about all types of fuel. It is a good stove, but maybe a little overkill and it sounds like a jet engine running.

  8. Tom Murphy
    March 24, 2009

    I purchased a SVEA 123R this winter and am thrilled with it.

    It is heavy and loud.

    I carry an eye dropper to add the gas into the priming port so that I can prime it with the windscreen attached.

    I was camped in the backyard at -5 deg with a good wind and I was able to light off on the first try.

    Just a lot of fun.

  9. Earlylite
    March 24, 2009

    I've been looking at the SVEA myself. Beautifully designed piece of equipment.

  10. tang-pommel
    July 21, 2009

    i have had the dragonfly since it first came out and still have it and take on trips up in the mountains it burnrns most fules unlike what the chart above says it dose iv even used naptha and trico ethylene with great sucsess and you shouldnt use any stove in a tent by rights having said that i have done it without turning myself into a fire ball and yes it dose sound like a jet engine when on full flame its scares the shit out of you the first time but you soon get used to it

  11. Mike
    April 25, 2010

    I've used a Svea 123 since the late 1970's. Have tried numerous other stoves over the years, but always choose the Svea when I go out for longer than an overnighter. Rock solid reliability and it produces plenty of heat to melt copious amounts of snow. I have a pump attachment but never use it, even in bitter cold. Only real drawback it it is a noisy bugger on a quiet morning!

  12. Burt
    April 17, 2014

    ++++++++ on the svea. Used mine for 40+ years now with out a single problem. Go Retro!

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