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  1. V
    June 6, 2013

    Nice review.
    Could you please say how much gaz this stove usually uses to boil 1L or may be I can tell me how many liters did you boil during your trip and how many gas did you used for it.
    I’m interesting in field experience rather that manufacturer’s data. I’d like compare it with my Primus Eta Solo.

    • Earlylite
      June 6, 2013

      Sorry, I just have the manufacturer’s lab results, although they actually include tests with wind to make them more realistic. All of these are for 0.5 liters or water and a 1.0 L stove system:

      0 mph (0 kph) wind speed: 90 seconds/5 grams of fuel
      8 mph (13 kph) wind speed: 115 seconds/6 grams of fuel
      12 mph (19 kph) wind speed: 115 seconds/6 grams of fuel

      • planB
        June 6, 2013

        What about the noise level. Does it “whisper” loudly like some other MSR stoves or does the intregal heat exchanger dampen the noise?

      • Earlylite
        June 6, 2013

        It’s very quiet because the sound is muted by the pot. Nothing like the jet engine sound you get on MSRs liquid fuel pots.

      • V
        June 7, 2013

        If you do not mind I’m putting my data just to compare.
        Some data from my field experience.
        Stove: Primus Eta Solo, temp 0C – +10C, 33% outside of tent, 100g canister.

        8.1L boiled water + 25mins simmering.

      • Earlylite
        June 8, 2013

        Not to knock your results, but I view all stove efficiency measurements with a grain of salt. What’s 33% outside of the tent mean? Was there wind? What was the starting temp of the water? What was your altitude? How much gas was vented before you started each burn, and so on.

        I make sure I have enough extra fuel to make it through a trip even if that means eating a cold meal or two to make sure that I conserve my fuel all the way through.

        That’s why I go on and on about the functional merits of this stove system in this review independent of the boil time metrics. It’s wind proof and safer than an open flame. It’s also a fast boiler, but that’s a given. I don’t really care how much faster to be honest, but it’s fun to show off.

  2. Earlylite
    June 6, 2013

    That reservoir with yellow liquid in it in the top photo is not what you think it is….the water in it is colored from peat and was very tannic tasting. Drinkable though.

    • Captainmouse
      June 6, 2013

      Lemonade. What were you imagining your readers thought?

      • Grandpa
        June 6, 2013

        Used lemonade.

  3. PaddlingOtaku
    June 6, 2013

    I too have used this stove and was utterly amazed by how fast it was. It packs a little big compared to some others, but if you are boiling water for two, there is nothing faster on the planet. Great review.

    PO

  4. Mike
    June 6, 2013

    Worth a mention that like so many MSR products the stove itself is made in the USA. I’ve used one of these snow camping and it can boil enough snow to make a liter of water in under 5 minutes. Like other isobutane/propane stoves it’s sluggish below about 25 degrees but there are workarounds for that.

  5. Chris
    June 6, 2013

    So, what was the trick to getting the proper type of fuel canisters (Snow Peak pictured, MSR IsoPro, etc.) in the UK, specifically Scotland?

    • Earlylite
      June 6, 2013

      I had a reliable friend who lives there bring me a primus canister.

      • MarkS
        June 6, 2013

        Primus fuel. Too bad no Primus stove. Had similar results with the ETA Pots and stove. Feel a little more comfortable putting a larger pot on the ETA setup rather than on the top of a butane bomb. The MSR pot is not such a new idea. Primus ETA pots has been around for how many years now?

        Agreed earlier from V. A review is not really regurgitating manufacturer data and calling it all good. Companies fib all the time and get away with it.

  6. AlanR
    June 6, 2013

    I have admired the specs of the MSR since it came out and your great post has confirmed it. However the annoying thing is, and the reason I won’t buy one, they should have designed it to fit any pot. I already own £120 worth of titanium and I’m damned if I’m buying another one.
    Glad you enjoyed Scotland.

    • Earlylite
      June 6, 2013

      But…the reason the stove works so well is the pot, not the stove.

  7. paddlingOtaku
    June 6, 2013

    Earlylite, I think it is combination of super efficient, flameless stove, and perfectly nestled so wind free pot. I agree with AlanR, when we first looked at it, we thought -‘they made the same mistake jetboil made. you can’t put a pot on it’ (and before someone comments that you can get an adapter for jetfoil – I know – but it destroys any semblance of fuel efficiency.

  8. Grandpa
    June 6, 2013

    My brother in law has one. When we backpack, I have to change my routine a bit when cooking. Usually, I start the water and then start preparing things because I have some time available while the water boils. The MSR is so fast that I pretty much have to have everything else ready because it will be boiling in a heartbeat. It’s one impressive stove.

  9. Just Your Average Hiker
    June 6, 2013

    Great review. I have been in love with my MSR Pocket Rocket and GSI Soloist cook set for years, but if that ever breaks down, I think I know exactly what will replace it now.

  10. Hikin’ Jim
    June 18, 2013

    Nice review of a nice stove. There’s no stove I’d rather have in wet and windy conditions. I love the compactness and (relative) lightness of the new 1.0L pot.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience,

    HJ

  11. Ed
    June 21, 2013

    I own the 1.7L version of this stove and it’s great for bivvying.
    I leave the burner inside a drybag and the pot / gas sitting outside – right next to my bivvi.
    When it’s brew time in the morning I just lean over and fire it up. I can have tea and breakfast before even leaving my bivi in the morning.

    Bliss.

  12. Chris
    March 3, 2014

    Hmm just tested a new zealand version of the gnat with an primus heat exchanger pot and 1 liter of 22 dgree C water. Came to a boil in 1 minute 45 secs. Did it again with the same result. Cost of stove? $33 U.S at today’ rates. So no thanks MSR!

    • Chris
      March 3, 2014

      Sorry, that should have said 2 minutes 45, no wind, but the flexibility of a wider pot for more than just boiling water

      • Rowan
        November 4, 2014

        Chris……Kathmandu?

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