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Lightweight Winter Backpacking Gear List: Explained

Winter backpacking in very different from three season backpacking - it requires more gear and many new skills.
Winter backpacking is very different from three season backpacking – It requires more gear, good decision-making, and many new skills.

This winter backpacking gear list is designed for use in temperatures down to 10 below zero (fahrenheit) and for camping below treeline, out of high wind. At just under 28 pounds, without food, fuel, or water, it’s a good example of a lightweight winter backpacking load and the tradeoffs that you can make to reduce the weight of your winter gear without skimping on comfort or taking too many risks.

I’ve broken the gear list into sections so I can explain it in more detail for hikers interested in winter backpacking. There’s a lot of information packed into this post about winter backpacking activities, gear requirements, and alternatives that I think you’ll find useful.

  • clothing for camp
  • clothing for hiking
  • clothing for layering
  • hydration
  • cooking
  • navigation
  • electronics
  • first-aid
  • packing
  • shelter
  • sleeping
  • traction

If you have questions, ask them in the comments. I’m happy to respond.

Clothing for Camp

Winter backpacking involves a lot of sitting around in the cold so you can cook and melt snow for drinking water. We do this to be social (because it’s fun) and to avoid dying from carbon monoxide poisoning in our tents or burning them down around us.

namedescriptionweight oz.
Darn Tough Hiker SocksWool socks2.4
Glasses hard caseProtect glasses when sleeping4
LL Bean UL 850 Hooded Down JacketPuffy hooded insulation18.7
Montbell Thermawrap PantsInsulated Pants12.4
Mountain Hardware Dome Perignon HatReally warm hat2.1
Patagonia Capilene LW BottomsSleeping baselayer5.9
Personal EffectsWallet, keys, money, etc.7
Polar BuffNeck insulation2.8
Supernatural JerseySleeping baselayer6.7

When melting snow or cooking dinner, you’re not moving, so you need to pile on the insulated clothing to stay warm. This typically includes a heavy insulated jacket, insulated pants, warm gloves, and head-gear, layered over your day time clothing if it’s dry or your sleeping clothes. You’ll often wear your regular winter boots in camp, but some people bring down booties to keep their feet warm.

Most of these extra “camp” layers are too warm to wear when you’re hiking, but you do need to carry them nonetheless. However, they can be used to augment the warmth of your sleeping bag: I use mine that way so I can take my zero-degree sleeping bag down to -10 degrees. I’m not that interested in camping in anything colder because it’s kind of unpleasant. It took me many years to admit this to myself, but when I did I was able to switch from a -25 degree sleeping bag to a much less expensive and lighter weight zero degree sleeping bag.

Clothing for Hiking

You don’t want to dress too warmly for winter hiking.  You’ll be carrying a much heavier pack than in summer, wearing heavier boots, and possibly snowshoes or crampons. Sweat is bad because it will accumulate in your clothes and cool you whenever you stop moving. This can snowball in crappy conditions and lead to hypothermia. If you start to sweat, strip off layers or slow down so your body generates less heat.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Baffin Borealis BootsLightweight double Insulated Boot48
Darn Tough Hiker Socks Cushioned2.4
Minus 33 Ticonderoga Wool JerseyMedium weight8.4
Mountain Hardware Fleece HatLight enough for exertion0.8
Possumdown GlovesHighly breathable1.5
Rab Polartec 100 Fleece 1/2 zip PulloverThin, easy to vent, warm when wet9.9
Ragged Mountain Interval Uncoated GaitersHigh breathable gaiters4.3
REI Activator Soft Shell PantsBreathable, stretchy17.3
Under Armor Heatgear BoxersNon-chafing, some insulation3.2

It’s not unusual for me to backpack stripped down to my midlayer fleece pullover or baselayer shirt. I also rarely wear long johns under my soft shell pants because I get too hot. I use them for sleeping instead.

My Baffin Borealis winter backpacking boots require some explanation. Called double insulated boots, they have removable liners. This is desirable in winter so you can sleep with your liners in your sleeping bag and not your entire boots. You do this to prevent the liners from freezing at night using your body heat. These Baffin Borealis boots are a real find because they’re super lightweight and you can walk easily in them. If your winter boots don’t have removable liners, you should be prepared to sleep with them.

Clothing for Layering

External temperatures or wind chill can vary widely on a winter backpacking trip, depending on the time of day, your location, and the amount of surrounding vegetation. It’s best to carry additional layers that you hold in reserve so you can layer up or off as conditions change. This is normal on winter hikes and backpacking trips, with people calling for layer breaks all the time.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
CAMP Wind GlovesWind shell exterior, soft shell glove3.5
Golite Reed XL Rain PantWomen's boot zip, no longer made6.7
Marmot Softshell GlovesDries fast2
Outdoor Research Cornice MittensWaterproof shell mitts, limited dexterity w/Primaloft inner insulated gloves8.4
Outdoor Research Foray JacketTechnical GTX Shell with pit/torso zips. Size XL17.5
Smith Knowledge OTG Fan GogglesInternal fan to prevent fogging6.1
Sunglasses + CaseGlare protection4.2

Your extra layers should be easy to put on or take off and they should be packed where they’re easy to access in your backpack. This includes extra hats, extra gloves, jackets, pants, a buff (neck gaiter), balaclava/face mask, gaiters, sunglasses, or goggles. If you wear big boots, bring rain pants than you can put on or take off without taking your boots off – usually pants with full or 3/4 side zips. My boots are small enough that I can put them on with just boot zip rain pants.

It will be rare for you to need your camping clothes during the day, with the exception of your big puffy jacket if you stop for a snack or water break. But you have those warm extra layers in reserve if you need them.

Hydration

The amount of water you carry on a winter backpacking trip usually varies between two and three liters, so you don’t have to stop and melt more using a stove during the day.You should shoot to have a half-cup of water left at the end of the day as a starter for melting more snow. If you try to melt snow in a dry pot, you’ll burn it and maybe hole your pot.

You’ll want to carry one bottle in an insulated container (foam or neoprene) outside your pack for easy access, positioned upside down so the cap doesn’t freeze. You can store the other bottles inside your backpack, snuggled among your insulating layers in order to save weight on added bottle insulation. You should carry your water in wide mouth bottles which are less likely to freeze and easier to open if they do. I like to carry soft propylene wide-mouth Hunersdorf bottles in winter which won’t crack if frozen and are easy to open while wearing mittens.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Forty Below Bottle Boots (1 liter)Neoprene insulated covers for 1 liter bottles3.8
Hunersdorf Bottle (1 liter)Wide mouth bottle4.8
Hunersdorf Bottle (1 liter)Wide mouth bottle4.8
Hunersdorf Bottle (1 liter)Wide mouth bottle4.8

If you can find water in liquid form, you still have to purify it. Boiling is an effective way to do this, since you’ll want to heat it up anyway to keep it from freezing overnight and to reboil it in the morning so it doesn’t freeze during the next day,

Cooking

All this boiling and melting snow takes a lot of time and stove fuel. I like to use a liquid fuel stove for winter because liquid fuel (white gas) is the highest BTU fuel available and it will burn down to -40 fahrenheit. While you can use a canister stove in winter, it becomes increasingly difficult to use under 20 degrees fahrenheit. You can push that down to about 0 degrees with a special inverted canister stove like the Jetboil Joule. But liquid fuel is still the best all round solution in my opinion, and makes it easy to share fuel in a group since so many other people use liquid fuel stoves in winter. That extra redundancy is nice.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Evernew 1.3 L Titanium Pot w/handleWinter size for melting snow4
Light My Fire Fire SteelFire starter1
Mesh Stuff SackHolds winter stove kit together0.8
MSR 20 oz Fuel Bottle6.3
MSR WhisperliteWhite Gas Stove w/fuel pump11.4
Folding WindscreenAccordion, compact4
OP SackFood bag, heavy plastic1.3
Sea to Summit Delta Insulated MugWith cap, liquid measurements4
Victorinox Classic Swiss Army KnifeTiny little knife with scissors0.7

Packing space is at a real premium in winter, but winter cooking gear can be bulky. With the exception of my fuel bottle and insulated cup, my entire cook system fits in my stove pot, which keeps it nice and compact. At 1.3 liters, the pot is about as small as you can go for melting snow, since you can only melt one bottle’s worth at a time.

Navigation

Navigation needs can vary widely in winter. While a map can suffice if you’re on a well used trail system and visibility is good, trails become much more difficult to find in winter when they’re covered in snow, the horizon is fogged in, and the snow is so deep that the blazes are buried under your feet. I always carry a compass for route finding, but it takes some practice to be able to use it effectively in winter, which is a lot more like off-trail navigation, than it is three-season navigation.

I also carry a whistle, something I carry all year, which is good for signaling companions when you can’t see them, like in dense fog or heavy vegetation. A whistle carries farther than the human voice and you can blow on it without becoming exhausted.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Fox 40 Plastic WhistleReally loud whistle0.1
Suunto M3 CompassAdjustable declination1.5

While I do use an iPhone for GPS navigation during the rest of the year, I switch to a Garmin eTrex 20x GPS unit in winter because it’s waterproof, has a better battery life than a phone, and most importantly, it can be used while wearing heavy gloves. The GPS unit is not part of my base gear list, because it’s often not needed.

Electronics

It’s important to use Lithium Ion Batteries to power electronic devices in winter because they don’t freeze like alkaline batteries, which contain a water-based electrolyte solution.

I like to bring a high-powered headlamp on winter trips because we often hike at night, what with the shortened daylight in winter. I also find shadows very distracting when I hike on snow at night and a bright headlamp helps chase them away.

My Black Diamond Icon headlamp (320 lumens) is powered by 4 AA batteries that last a long time, usually all winter. It also has a lock mode which I view as essential, so it won’t turn on accidentally and lose power. I also carry a very small Petzl e+lite headlamp, also with a lock mode, mainly for use in my tent, which is easy to stow in my sleeping bag for easy access at night.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Black Diamond Icon Headlamp/w 4 x AA Lithium Ion Bateries6.8
Extra Camera Battery1.3
Canon Powershot S120 with Battery7.6
iPhone w/Lander Case5.9
Petzl e+Lite Headlamp1.8
SPOT GPS Satellite MessengerEmergency PLB and Check-in Messenger4.1
Spare Batteries and Camera StuffLithium ion batteries6.3

I always bring a pocket camera because I take a lot of photos, as well as a SPOT GPS Satellite Messenger. The SPOT lets me send out periodic “OK” messages, which my wife appreciates and would be useful in an emergency to contact Search and Rescue if I’m out of cellphone range. I also carry a phone because it’s a better way to contact search-and-rescue if a cell phone signal is available. I also read books and take notes on it.

First-Aid

I use the exact self-assembled first-aid kit in the winter that I carry the rest of the year. Nothing special: Benedryl, Aspirin, Advil, ear plugs, Leuoktape for blister prevention. Some other odds and ends. You can find a complete list of my first aid contents here: Homemade Ultralight First Aid Kit. 

namedescriptionweight/oz.
First aid kitSelf assembled6.6

Packing

One of the keys to reducing your winter gear weight is to keep the volume of the backpack you need as small as possible. That means carrying highly compressible gear and learning how to attach gear to the outside of your backpack using its external attachment system. The weight of your gear is important of course, but if you can keep the volume of your pack under 60 liters, you’re going to be way ahead of the game. This may require some compromises on your part, for example, not backpacking when temperatures are less than zero degrees, but you can’t have it both ways.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Hyperlite Mountain Gear Stuff Sackcuben fiber stuff sack0.5
Hyperlite Mountain Gear 3400 (55L) Southwest Packcuben fiber pack32.4
Lowepro Dashpoint 20 WP Camera Pocket. Attached in shoulder strap.1.9
Mini-binerAttach swiss army knife to pack0.1

My winter backpack is a cuben fiber Hyperlite Mountain Gear 3400 (55L) Southwest backpack, the same pack I use for longer multi-day backpacking trips the rest of the year. I can fit all of the gear, food, fuel, and water I need for winter backpacking inside it or attached to the outside of the pack with extra room to spare. I’ve used slightly larger backpacks in the past, but this one weighs significantly less, just over two pounds. It opens from the top with a roll top, which I find useful in winter because I can quickly find the gear I need.

While cuben fiber fabric is waterproof, cuben fiber backpacks are not because you need to make holes in the fabric to sew on the shoulder pads and hip belt. I line my pack with a white trash compactor bag to keep its contents dry, and while I use stuff sacks or Ziploc baggies to organize gear, I pack a lot of clothes in my pack loose. I find that this reduces the pack space required by my clothes, eliminating the air gaps between other bulkier items inside my backpack. Experiment with this and see what you prefer.

Shelter

My goto shelter in winter is a freestanding Black Diamond Firstlight Tent which I think is the best lightweight all-round winter backpacking tent made. Weighing just 43 ounces, it’s truly freestanding so you can set it up just about anywhere. It has very steep walls that shed snow well, good head room, and has plenty of interior space since it’s designed for two (very friendly) people.

Black Diamond Firstlight Tent
Black Diamond Firstlight Tent on the flanks of Mt Washington.
namedescriptionweight/oz.
Black Diamond Firstlight TentFreestanding, 4 season tent43

I don’t carry any tent stakes to pitch this tent. If I need anchors, I take apart my poles and use them as stakes (shown) or anchor the other guy out loops with other gear I carry, like snowshoes, crampons, or an ice axe. I rarely even bother to sinter (harden) the snow under the tent and just set it up. Since it’s freestanding, I can pitch it in less than 2 minutes, climb in, and change into dry clothes without standing around and getting cold. Freestanding tents are priceless in winter but few truly freestanding tents are made.

Sleeping

It’s not unusual to sleep for 12 hours on a winter backpacking trip, so you might as well make the most of it and be comfortable and warm. The key to this is bringing a warm sleeping bag and a thick sleeping pad with a high R-value. Many people like to bring two sleeping pads in winter and combine them to get the R-value (which is additive) that they need.

The R-values for sleeping pads aren’t tested uniformly the same way across manufacturers, but they’re the best measure of thermal resistance (insulation) available to consumers, so useful for guidance. I think an R-value of 5 or 6 is ideal for winter camping, so that’s the amount of sleeping pad insulation I shoot for, and experience has proven this out.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
NEMO Sonic 0 Sleeping BagRoomy winter bag42
REI Compression SackFor sleeping bag3
Therm-a-Rest Xtherm Sleeping PadR value=515
Therm-a-Rest Zlite Sleeping PadDoubles as sit pad8.1

I bring an insulated Therm-a-Rest XTherm inflatable mattress (R-value =5 ) for comfort and a shortened foam Therm-a-Rest Zlite sleeping pad, which serves as my sit pad during dinner, when we sit on snow to cook and melt snow for drinking water. You don’t want to forget a sit pad on a winter backpacking trip or you’ll freeze your ass off!

I put the Zlite under the XTherm at night for additional insulation. Foam pads like this are also preferred for shielding accident victims from hypothermia from the ground, which is why you see so many winter day hikers and backpackers carrying them on the trails. It’s good to have at least one in your group.

As I mentioned previously, I downgraded from a -25 degree sleeping bag to a 0 degree sleeping bag, when I realized that I don’t really enjoy backpacking in sub-zero temperatures. It took me a long time to realize this – nearly a decade. But after I switched to a 0 degree bag, I was able to switch to a smaller volume backpack, and so on, shaving more weight from my gear list. I still carry enough extra insulated clothing that I can take my 0 degree bag down to -10, but I’m also likely to postpone a backpacking trip if the weather forecast is that cold at night.

Traction

I always bring microspikes, snowshoes, and trekking poles on winter backpacking trips, so they have a permanent spot on my winter gear list. It’s important to replace the summer baskets on your trekking poles with snow baskets for winter travel. They really are an essential flotation aid for winter hiking.

namedescriptionweight/oz.
Hillsound Trail Crampon Ultra16.8
MSR Evo Ascent Snowshoes 22 inchBomber snowshoe64
Pacerpole Dual Lock PolesCarbon fiber w/snow baskets20.8

The MSR Evo Ascent Snowshoes I use are intended for climbing mountains and have a televator wire that lifts up under the heel to make them easier to climb slopes with. This unibody plastic snowshoe is also much better off-trail than a snowshoe with an attached fabric deck, because branches can’t become caught between the deck and the frame. I do a lot of off-trail hiking in winter and there’s a slight weight penalty (just a few ounces) for using these snowshoes instead of decked ones that are slightly lighter.

Extra Gear – As Needed

When I don’t need this extra gear, I’ll leave it at home. It consists of extra traction, navigation, a shovel for digging out camp kitchen or vestibule trenches in deep snow, and wood preparation tools for when we want to make campfires.

namedescriptioncategoryweight/oz.
Hillsound Trail Crampon Proratchet style crampontraction24.9
CAMP Corsa Ice AxeUL Ice axetraction10
Garmin eTrex 20x GPSw/ lithium ion AA batteriesnavigation4.6
Voile Telepro Avalanche Shoveldigging snow furnitureshelter29
Silky GOMBOY 240 Pruning Sawwood prepshelter9.4
Mora Companion Knifewood prep, includes Kydex sheathshelter4.1

The shovel, saw, and knife are best thought of as group gear and we distribute them around so one person doesn’t have to carry all of them. The decision on whether to bring crampons or a GPS has a lot to do with the terrain where we plan to hike, the weather forecast, and trip reports that document local conditions that are posted by other hikers and backpackers.

Wrap Up

Cuben fiber Duomid in Winter
Using a Cuben fiber Duomid in Winter took too long to set up for me, so I use a heavier freestanding tent instead.

My 28 pound winter backpacking gear list is pretty streamlined and lightweight and should provide you with a good template of the gear required for winter backpacking and camping. While I could still “spend” its weight down more by swapping out my freestanding tent for a tarp shelter and other ultralight substitutions, I’m not really inclined to race to the bottom like that any more. I have used floorless cuben fiber shelters in winter and not found them to be particularly comfortable. It also takes a while to freeze in deadman stakes so you can stake them out, time I’d rather be spending out of the wind and changing into dry clothes inside the freestanding tent I carry instead.

My advice – figure out what is right for you to be safe and comfortable, and suck it up if it weighs a bit more than you’d like. Winter backpacking gear IS heavier than three season hiking gear, but if you can get your full-out pack weight for a two night trip under 40 pounds, including food, water, and fuel, that’s a good target weight to shoot for. Reducing your gear weight for winter backpacking is a worthwhile goal and does pay dividends, but it takes some time to accomplish it, so keep at it.

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37 comments

  1. That’s a great compilation list! Thanks for sharing. Like anything outdoors, I believe it’s important to carry quality products as not only will they protect and serve you better, but also last much longer. Nice one!

  2. Phil,
    Lot of great information here.
    Thank you for taking the time to share it.
    I’m going to copy and save it for future reference.
    You are doing a lot of great work.
    Thank you!

  3. When you are sleeping in frostbite possible conditions how do you protect your mouth and nose while sleeping?
    Are you wearing a mask to bed or breathing thru a balaclava?

    • Frostbite most often occurs when your face is exposed to the wind. I sleep in a tent, hence no wind. In extremely cold conditions, you could wear a balaclava with a mask over the face, but it’s usually unnecessary when your face is encased in a mummy sleeping bag hood. I honesty never even worry about it, although you could cinch the hood tight so only a small hole is open and your exhalations will be enough to keep your nostrils and lips from freezing shut. :-)

      • I have always found that the heat escaping through the opening will keep your nose and mouth from freezing

  4. Phillip, this is a fantastic asset, thank you. Regarding the compression sack for your sleeping bag – on a previous post you shared that you prefer to stuff the bag into a trash bag, uncompressed, so that it leaves less air pockets and fills the bag better. Is that different for winter?

    • Yes. A 0 degree mummy bag is considerably larger than the 40 degree hoodless bag or quilt I use the rest of the year. Packing for winter is very different from three season conditions because there is SO much more gear. Easily 2 to 3 times more, so the compression sack has a much bigger impact in winter. I also pack a lot of my clothes loose, which fills in any gaps.

  5. Do you ever use a pulk/sled? I love it, as it allows for so many luxuries if you want (wood, beer, etc) and takes weight off your back.

  6. You mentioned storing water bottles in the pack. Do you store the ones in the pack upside down like the one outside? If so, do the Hunersdorf bottles seal well enough on their own to keep from leaking or do you use plumber’s tape on the threads?

    • I do wrap the threads with plumbers tape, although the bottles seal just fine without it. I’m just paranoid.

      I store the bottles right side up inside my pack – they stay warm all day and freezing isn’t an issue.

  7. Hi Philip,

    Great post and thank you for giving me the head’s up in response to my questions on the HMG3400. We’re at opposite ends of the continent (me in San Diego) and reading this reminds me just how much I’ve forgotten or just don’t know about real winter camping. I still want to camp in the snow if possible this winter – we are getting rain here, which I think means more snow for the local mountains. I will add about 20 degrees (F) to the minimum target temps you list in this article, i.e, I will not be prepared for anything less than +10F.

    I knew I would need warmer clothes and a larger pack, but I forgot in my earlier post about the liquid fuel stove, larger pot, shovel and saw. I have those items, but didn’t consider them when listing the increased weight and size of pack needed. I am working to make sure I have the camp, hiking and layering clothing systems needed, and I like that category breakdown

    I’m questioning my plan to hammock camp at these temps, but others have done it at much lower temps and posted on YouTube so I know it’s possible. Although I think I would be comfortable to 10F with my current quilt set, it would not be conducive to climbing in to change out bulky wet clothes for bulky dry ones. I have a 3 person “freestanding” tent that I used years ago camping for snow camping, so I just need to buddy up if I go that route.

    Thanks,
    Bob

  8. Hi Philip,
    How do you get away with a non-waterproof tent like BD Firstlight in winter conditions? I understand that they use NanoShield, but is a strong water resistance enough under precipitation, say sleet?
    Thanks,
    Ender

  9. Thank you for this list.

    I noticed you didn’t go for any vapor barrier in the sleeping bag, socks or mitts. I read your post on vapor barriers recently and curious if your position has changed. Would you be interested in doing an updated post on them? I appreciate your current perspective.

    • Not really needed for the 1 or 2 night trips I take (no danger of long term moisture build-up) and not worth the added discomfort when my gear is light enough without them. Fun to play around with, but sleeping naked in a vapor barrier liner in a sleeping bag is not much fun when you have to get up at night to pee. But if you want to get your gear weight even lower than mine, be my guest.

      • No need to get up and pee just pee in a gallon zip lock bag been doing it for years and put it outside when done ! Works just fine

      • Now try doing it while wearing a vapor barrier barrier in your sleeping bag. Instant flash off of the moisture on the surface of your skin as soon as you pull it down over your shoulders. Very cold and unpleasant. Peeing in a bag is easy. I recommend it, but not while wearing a vapor barrier liner in winter!

  10. Mr. Werner,

    I am curious about something: You mention the R values of sleeping pads is additive. Does that same logic apply to sleeping bags? Would layering 20 and 40 degree bags yield something warmer than a 20 degree rating? If so, can you put a number to it? I realize this might be possible, yet not practical.

    Thanks,

    • Yes, it’s additive. No I can’t put a number to it. Someone should really make an insulated over-bag for a 20 degree sleeping bag and test it in a cold room to figure out how much it would increase the temp rating. Would make a great modular, UL product for winter camping.

      • Some of the lightest Western Mountaineering bags are suitable for use as an overbag. For example, their description of the EverLite says, “Adds about 10° F as an overbag.”

      • Enlightened Equipment had a blog post on quilt stacking last year, including a handy chart that showed the ultimate temp rating for various combinations of quilts. Looks like that post is gone, unfortunately.

        Based on their chart, I bought a 40F quilt for summertime and in winter to layer over my 20F quilt, for a low rating of -10F or thereabouts. Have not had a chance to try it.

        Shug on youtube layers bags and stacks quilts in some videos, there might be more info in there for a seeker.

      • That spreadsheet was obviously filled out with cut and paste formulas, not actual temperature observations. Buyer beware. Test in your back yard.

  11. I have done the two bag or more specifically the bag/quilt thing. I used my Marmot Hydrogen (32F) bag with a Katabatic 22 quilt over the top and was comfortable down to 0F. I was actually very warm and only in my icebreaker base layers so I would probably have been fine a bit lower. I will add the caveat that I tend to be pretty warm blooded and (as always) stoked the fire with a hi protein dinner. I think the bag/quilt has real merit because it gives you the hood from the mummy, prevents any drafts, but is less restrictive than the two bags approach. I believe I recently read that the guys that did the PCT in Winter used down bags with synthetic quilts so I may not be as creative as I thought!

    • I’ve done it with my wife winter car camping, but not in any scientific way. We just brought a lot of bags and quilts and piled them on top of us in that FirstLight as a matter of fact. She said she’ll never use that tent again! It’s not exactly a two person tent, more like a 1.5. I guess she got use to the 4 person tent we normally use the rest of the year.

  12. I remember that you posted some positive comments about the TSL snowshoes a little while back. Have you found that these do not replace the MSR Evo ascents? I’m trying to decide between the two.

  13. Do you find it necessary to use the added floatation tails with your MSR snowshoes? Cheers.

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