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The NEMO Hornet 2P Tent is a two person ultralight tent with two doors that weighs just 1 pound 14.3 ounces (on the SectionHiker scale), not including stuff sacks or tent stakes. Let that sink in for a moment. The NEMO Hornet 2P is lighter weight than many two person ultralight silnylon tents, so you can finally enjoy the advantages of a double-walled tent without a weight penalty (See Advantages of Lightweight Double-Walled Tents.)
Design
The Hornet 2P is a semi-freestanding tent meaning that the inner tent hangs from an exoskeleton style hub and spoke pole using plastic clips. Setup is incredibly fast and simple. Simply spread out the inner tent, insert the pole into the connectors sewn to the floor, and then stake out the corners (yes, in that order). Then hang the inner tent from the pole using the plastic hooks provided.
Besides easy setup, the advantage of this pole architecture is that it creates a very large air gap between the inner tent and the rain fly, that improves internal airflow and eliminates internal condensation transfer onto your gear.
Once the inner tent is pitched, position the rain fly over it, connecting the rear corners to jakes feet connectors. Do the same for the front corners, which don’t have jakes feet, but simple string guylines that you slide over the same corner stakes you used to stake out the inner tent’s front corners (the Hornet 2P requires just 4 stakes to pitch in non-windy conditions).
Stake out the vestibules and tension the doors with line loc tensioners, like those found on most single-walled UL tents. The entire pitching process is remarkably quick and easy for one person to do while your partner takes care of other camping chores.
Livability
The most important feature in any two person tent is having two doors so you can get out of the tent at night without waking up your partner. NEMO does that one better by positioning the doors so that you can get in and out of them without having to move any packs or gear that you’ve already stored in the vestibule. Both doors and the vestibules above them can be rolled up and secured open using toggles, a nice touch that adds a lot of function without adding a lot of weight.
But the inner tent is tapered to be wider at the head where you need more room and slightly narrower at the feet. The tent sides are also slanted, A-frame style, with a high center point and sloping sides. While both of these design choices help shave weight off the tent, they do reduce its livability somewhat compared to heavier two person tents with vertical side walls and rectangular floors. These are the compromises NEMO chose to save weight. While they make the Hornet 2P a bit snug, the tent still doesn’t feel confining with two adults occupants.
The usable (measured) space inside of the tent is:
- 84 inches long
- 48 inches wide at the head end
- 40.5 inches wide at the foot end
- 36″ of height at the center peak
- 30″ of height above your head when lying in the tent
While two 20″ pads fit side by side in the tent, there’s not a lot of extra room along the sides of the tent. However, there is extra space at the head and foot ends of the tents where you can place personal possessions or store your shoes. Each occupant also has their own side pocket and there’s a large shared pocket at the head end on the back wall of the tent that provides even more internal storage.
When the Hornet 2P houses two adults, you’re going to want to store your backpacks in the side vestibules. While the vestibules are long enough so you can get out of the side doors without moving your gear, they’re a bit narrow for storing high-capacity backpacks that take up a lot of room and have a tendency to fall in toward the inner tent if you prefer to store them upright. It’s not a showstopper though.
Air circulation, another key livability variable, through the Hornet 2P is nothing short of fantastic, always an important consideration in a double-walled tent where internal condensation can build up when the rain fly is closed. In addition to the head-space between the rain fly and inner tent, air is channeled under the rain fly doors and through a high air vent at the head end of the tent.
If you position the tent so this air vent is pointed into the wind, you can increase air flow without opening the vestibule doors. The high rear wall of the inner tent helps break the force of the breeze, while still preserving interior warmth in cool weather. Many of NEMO’s tents feature this vent design and it’s a signature feature of the brand.
Lightweight Materials
How did NEMO make a semi-freestanding, double-walled tent that weighs less than 2 pounds, you wonder? Material and fabric innovations have always been the key enabler for ultralight gear and the construction of the Hornet 2P is no exception. Most of the weight saving in this tent comes from using 10 denier silnylon/PU rain fly. (An earlier commercial version of this tent had a 7 denier rain fly, but NEMO upgraded it to a 10 denier fabric for better durability.) The Hornet 2P also uses a DAC Featherlite NFL hub and spoke pole, one of the lightest weight poles available today. Clever design, a NEMO trademark, is also a major factor.
Recommendation
The Nemo Hornet 2P ultralight double-walled tent weighs just 1 pound 14.3 ounces rivaling many two person single-walled ultralight tents in terms of weight and cost, something unheard of a few years ago. The Hornet 2P’s light weight also makes it possible to enjoy the many benefits of double-walled tents which have been overshadowed by weight concerns and pushed many backpackers to less comfortable single-walled shelters.
Benefits like:
- Semi-freestanding, so you can pitch a tent in seconds without having to worry so much about staking and surface conditions (making setup virtually idiot-proof)
- Almost zero internal condensation transfer since the moisture is captured by the rain fly.
- Less drafty because they don’t have to be wind tunnels to combat internal condensation
- Ability to use many double walled tents in winter since they’re warmer, when you’d never use a single walled tent.
- Seam taped, so you don’t have to seam seal the tent with silicone and paint thinner in your basement.
- No need to carry trekking poles if you don’t use them.
Despite some of the volume and space compromises that NEMO made with the Hornet 2P to keep its weight below 2 pounds, I think this tent is an excellent option if you prefer double-walled tents over single-walled ones or want a lightweight tent for couples backpacking that is equally viable as a spacious one person tent.
It really is remarkable how lightweight two-person double-walled tents have become without completely sacrificing comfort and livability. The NEMO Hornet 2P is an outstanding example of the ultralight double-walled tents available and worth a close look if you’re looking to switch to a lighter weight backpacking tent.
Likes
- Under 2 pounds – very lightweight
- Fast and easy setup
- Excellent hardware: Jakes feet connectors, line loc tensioners, all zippers have inner and outer cordage to help prevent fabric snagging.
- Lightweight enough to be used a single person tent when hiking alone
- Excellent ventilation
Dislikes
- Limited headroom in the inner tent due to sloped side walls
- Tapered foot width limits use of wide sleeping pads
- Vestibules are narrow, making it hard to store a large backpack upright without it resting against the inner tent
Disclosure: NEMO provided Philip Werner with a Hornet 2P tent for this review.
Written 2016. Updated 2018.
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Great review and I like the tent except in two areas..Color, it just annoys my eyes so…and Price, I would pay $150.00 for it but not what the MSRP is suggesting and remember the MSRP is a suggestion….
That color works pretty well when the leaves come out. Bright green just blends right in.
I tried this tent over the winter while backpacking in the Presidentials. It did not hold up in the cold and windy weather. I was literally freezing and had to abandon the camp and head down. Would not recommend at all.
That about the most extreme environment you can imagine for a tent that’s not intended for the arctic conditions above treeline in the Whites and has little correlation to 3 season use. I couldn’t care less if anyone buys this tent or not, but your comparison is misleading for people who don’t realize how cold and windy it is during winter in New Hampshire’s Presidential Range.
The Nemo is a 3-season (at best) ultralight double-walled tent, with pretty minimal fly coverage. No way I’d want to use it in high wind winter conditions. 4-season 2-person double-walled tents are usually behemoths and really just 1 season, since you don’t want to carry it the other 3 seasons. I don’t really do winter backpacking, but if I did, I would go with a WPB bivy (and maybe a vapor barrier liner inside my quilt).
Like you said, you really don’t do winter backpacking. You’d probably change your mind if you did.
Paul Jaymes….how did the tent stand up in the wind?
Looks like Moosejaw has is it on sale for $278. Under $300 is a good price for an ultralight 2p tent, and actually I’m pretty impressed with the weight on the Nemo.
I think the only way you could put together an ultralight “double-walled” 2p tent for close to $150 would be to buy separately ultralight tarp, mosquito net pyramid, and ground sheet.
Yeah, not really sure what Eddie S was talking about because finding an UL tent for $150 anywhere is no really reality. If you want a 4-5 lbs tent sure, $150 will get you there but in this category tents routinely cost $299 and up.
Question for Philip. Your survey suggested many of us are moving towards quilts (I have) as UL backpackers. I only take a tent if snow/sleet is possible (4 season) or taking new hikers out. Otherwise, I prefer my bivy sack. It also seems like hammocks have really grown where allowed. How many UL backpackers are moving away from tents?
I think it’s hard to quantify because so many backpackers own multiple shelters and take different ones for different circumstances, seasons, etc.
But I don’t really like the distinction between UL and non-UL hikers, to be honest. One, gear has gotten so much lighter than the distinction has lost some of its weight (pun), the entire notion of UL is meaningless because it doesn’t factor in consumables weight (who cares if you have a 10 pound gear list if you carry 15 pounds of consumables), what you bring on a trip should depend on your objectives and needs not some context-free notion of gear weight, and because most people lie about their gear weight anyway and leave their electronic appliances, wallets, prescriptions, keys, etc off their gear lists.
Hahahahaha, you speak the truth on us lying about true gear weight-it doesn’t count if it is in my pocket…right? :-)
Thanks for quick response.
Sorry about the blast of cynicism. But that old-time UL religion has pretty much died out. People talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk. Everyone under a tarp has an inner nest now. I call it “Comfort Ultralight”. It’s ok to bring some luxuries again now that gear has gotten so lightweight. Heck, I do it too and enjoy it!
I own a Nemo Obi 1 Elite, purchased after your review, While compact and very light the mesh netting runs and sags at the blink of an eye. I doubt that I will ever purchase another Nemo product.
I didn’t ever review the Elite, but I’m still sorry to hear that. You should contact the manufacturer and tell them that you have a product defect. They do have a lifetime guarantee. Sounds like you have a legitimate issue.
http://www.nemoequipment.com/support/warranty-returns/
I’d reject it on color alone–severe pain in the eyeballs!
Any double-wall tent that requires setting up the inner tent first is going to get quite soggy inside if you have to set up or take down in the rain. (Been there, done that.) For a double-wall tent, I insist on having one in which the fly is set up first and taken down last–for example, the double wall tents from Tarptent.
Hilleberg and others
Go for it, Granny!!
Well your review lured me to buy one Philip. I shall, or course, blame you if I don’t like it,
I’m reviewing a bunch of its competitors this spring (MSR Freelite, Mountain Hardware Ghost UL 2, etc.) and it’s still head and shoulders the best. Let me know how you like it when you take it out.
I will. I was going back and forth between the Hornet and the 2016 Carbon reflex 2, which are both on sale at various places through Memorial Day. The Hornet is only just over an oz heavier with what seem to be fewer compromises overall, especially as I’m aiming for a roomier one person rather than using it for 2.
I think you made a much better choice with the Hornet (which makes a luxurious 1 person tent). The airflow in the Hornet is much better and I suspect you’ll find the interior height much higher as well.
I had Big Agnes Copper Spur UL1 on order when I saw this review. I was able to cancel that order and get the two-person Hornet for around $40 less than the (also discounted) CS tent. Score! The main thing that swayed me was that this tent will likely be my only backpacking shelter for the foreseeable future, and even though my girlfriend isn’t coming along on the trips I have planned for the next couple of months, it would be nice to be able to bring her in the future. That plus fact that the Hornet is very slightly lighter and (I think) more compact — key because I carry a 35 liter pack. Anyway, I’ll let you know how I like after I’ve gotten it on the trail!
Love that color, very nice tent.
The color is fine with me as well
Philip my apologies you are correct. You didn’t review the Nemo Obi 1 Elite. You reviewed the Nemo Obi 1. My bad. I mixed up your review of the Obi 1 and Backpacking Light’s review of the Elite. I still like the design of the tent just not the choice of materials.
Couple of quick questions, Philip: do you have any advice for the best way to guy the tent out if the weather looks rough? It doesn’t come with much in the way of instructions. Also I assume bad weather is when you’d want to use the velcro strips on the fly to attach it more firmly to the poles? And lastly, the floor is (obviously — it’s a feature, not a bug) made out of pretty wispy seeming stuff. I’m sure it’s a lot tougher than it looks, but did you use a groundsheet with the tent?
1. Put stakes in all of the guy out points and secure the doors closed. Pitch it behind a wind break. See:
http://sectionhiker.com/9-campsite-selection-tips/
2. Yes.
3. I never carry a footprint, although you should if you’re really worried about abrasion. I always pitch my tent on soft ground or forest duff. That’s just the environment I hike/backpack in. Your climate/environment may be different.
Philip: What do DAC and NFL stand for? I’m thinking I may get this tent. Thanks!
DAC is the name of a company that makes good tent poles.
You can read more about their Featherlite NSL (a model name) here:
http://www.dacpole.com/html/nsl_new.htm
I’m a proud owner of the hornet 2p ultra light tent. Although I’m not an easy sell, after lots of research and comparison between ul tents, I think, until now, I made the right choice for a mild tempeture environment. The tent’s been mounted only 5 time now and I have no complaints. The first time I did not tighten the rear guy strings and the inner and outter components were in contact causing excessive condensation inside. The best aspect for me is the weight, not causing me great concern for the addition of a foot-print which protects my ul sleeping pad. Tested in a light, yet constant rain with mild breezes, I had no leaks. But that said, I have yet to verify its performance under a hard rain and strong and gusty winds. I also like the space. Once I slept with my wife and there was adaquate room. The other times I slept alone. With little difference in weight between the 1 and 2 p tents, the 2 p was the better option.
I tried the Hornet (at home, in the house) and returned it as I was concerned about the interior room. I’m sure I’m spoiled from using the Big Agnes Copper Spur UL-2 for many years. I planned to use the Hornet with my brother, not as a one person tent. When my wife and I layed inside the tent on neoair pads I was touching the inner tent with my head, feet and side. The narrow peak prevented us from both sitting up at once. Although the floor dimensions are not significantly different from the Copper Spur, the angle of the sides make the tent feel much smaller, especially if you are elevated on a thick pad. My other concern was that when the fly is open rain could fall vertically right into the tent as there is no cross pole holding the fly opening away from the side of the tent.
Would you recommend this tent for 3 season use in the White mountains? It would probably see a 50/50 mix of dirt and tent platforms.
Not so much for platforms. you really have to stake it out.
I’d recommend these two tents instead because the inner tent is freestanding. Note the Y pole formations at the ends. On platforms, you just need to stretch out the outer fly which is much easier to cope with.
https://www.rei.com/product/863076/msr-hubba-hubba-nx-tent
https://www.rei.com/product/865389/big-agnes-copper-spur-ul2-tent
one person and three model variants of these tents are also available.
Hi Philip-
I’ve seen it elsewhere that if the Hornet is being used for 1P it probably can be considered “Freestanding” but for 2P it it needs to be staked- But I saw your note about not being well suited to tent platforms due to the staking requirement.
I was curious if you thought this is viable for 1 person for use on tent platforms or if you would still recommend something like the Copper Spur?
I would be using it solo the majority of the time – and I do have an old 4+ lb REI Passage 2 that I have used for years that I could continue to use for 2P when we have to camp on a platform – but is obviously a pain to carry solo!
The Copper Spur looks nice as well but if I’d love to save the 12oz when carrying it solo.
Thanks!
The Copper Spur is “more” freestanding than the Hornet and better for tent platforms. Look at the corners in their respective pole architectures.
Hi Philip: Would you recommend this tent for 6 feet people in rainy conditions? Thanks!
I’m 5’11” and it fits me fine.
I’m a little over 6′ and fit comfortably. Plenty of room inside if you’re solo, even in the rain. (Because of how tapered the walls are, you can only really sit up straight if you’re in the center of the tent.)
What are feet people, and how could you cram six of them into this tent?
Omg I lol’d…..
Hahaha – also LOL !
If you search the internet for deals like on ebay this tent can be found for as low as $260 (what I paid). It was listed as “New Returned Condition”. When I received it all of the tags were still on it and it seemed to be never opened. Just a shopping tip if anyone is interested. As far as the tent itself I have only used it a few times. Very simple setup and my intent was a roomy 1 person backpack tent. The dual vestibules are amazing when using it as a solo tent, gear on one side and entry on the other. I love everything about it so far, it does seem like the materials are thin but that comes with the lightweight territory. That being said i have not had any durability issues with it. One more tip is I often find myself in rocky terrain so I ordered a sheet of tyvek on ebay for 10$ and cut it into a footprint. The tyvek is ultralight and adds some versatility and durability to the floor if needed depending on terrain. Overall for $260 good luck finding something that is this light-weight, feature rich, and versatile. Im sold so far. Hope this helps somebody thinking about the tent.
How do you think this compares to something like tarptent squall? What would you recommend?
I recommend both tents. Which you choose will depend on the conditions you plan to use them for and what kind of comfort you want. I’d just say that the tarptent is drafter in cold weather.
Do you think 15D fabric for the floor suffices? I’m yet to understand what thickness of fiber in tent fabrics that i should consider for normal 3 season tents. My current 2p tent has a 150D polyester and an inner fabric of 40D nylon. Is that a bit of an overkill?
15d is about the thinnest made. You just need to be careful where you pitch the tent. If it’s a concern, get one with a thicker floor. I believe Tarptent uses 30d. The Tent you have is now is probably overkill and heavy, although it’s hard to say since you haven’t said what it is or described the conditions where you camp.
I wanted to get the lunar solo Le which has a 70d polyester floor and weighs only 850g. I still have concerns over its capacity to handle high winds. I’m looking for a more versatile tent that can handle Australia and New Zealand conditions (mild rain, lowest temp 0’c, max windspeed experienced so far around 60 km/h).
Not the greatest choice for high winds. Check out a pyramid tent – best for the wind – and you can buy them with an optional inner nest.
I got this to climb the Matterhorn in winter, but could not find a ledge big enough to set it up so I abandoned camp and climbed down. hahahahaha LOL Just kiddin. I have the Big Agnes Fly Creek 2 Ul HV. I cannot see how the open sidewall of the Nemo fly will be very effective in wind. It looks to me like it could catch wind against the waterproof body material and then lift the fly. Curious. Looks like a cool tent otherwise.
Great review! Did you measure the 84″ length or was it provided by Nemo? I bought a Fly Creek UL2 HV that was supposed to be 86″ long but inside it only measures 80″, which is a bit short for me.
Thank you!
Yes. I never trust mfg measurements.
i just got this tent and planning to take it for a spin for an overnight hiking trip.
question about the high cut air vent though. Are we supposed to pitch the tent with the head side or the feet (smaller) side facing the find?
Really depends on how much ventilation you want and expected wind speed.
Hello ! First a big thank you for your opinions both critical and tolerant, your are the one with which we have the best approach to tents that we do not see before they have bought.
My question : to bivouac in kayak in the south of France (hight night time humidity), I am hesitating between :
– the HORNET 2 SEATS (large and well ventilated)
– the BA COPPER SPUR 1 PLACE (small but more known)
They have a very fine fabric : I will add a thick protective plastic under the tent (roots, pebbles, pine needles).
Could you tell me what do you think ?
Thank you and sorry for my “english”
Leni
Not exactly sure what you’re asking, but both of those tents are fine for milder conditions. If you want a tent that will stand up to alpine conditions and high winds, try Hilleberg Tents.
thank you very much for your answer. Here the climate is mild all year round. But there is a need for a very great ventilation of the tent.
– It seems to me that the Hornet is more ventilated than the Copper which, it, seems less fragile. ??
(Hilleberg is heavy, too protective, and I do not have as much life in front of me to spend as much (laughs).
Cordially
Keep the vestibule doors open and both ventilate fine. Closed its hard to tell the difference.
Simply Amazing in my opinion. Weight and compacted size were what attracted me. As with all 2 man tents you better be small newlyweds but it is a roomy one man tent. I like the color. Its not neon like some pictures may appear, more of a newer green leaf. Customer service is unlike any Ive experienced with any product. After months of research Im very happy with my final decision.
If one was to use a footprint for this tent are there any alternatives to the nemo footprint?
window wrap or tyvek are a lot less expensive and lighter weight
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http://amzn.to/2rc33r9
For me this is a 2lb, 3 season, one person palace and that’s the only way I use it. I like to tweak and modify and this tent was no exception. On the rear triangulated pullouts I added a line-loc tensioner to the top tab. This gives me adjustable peg placement for stubborn ground.
The tent comes with a pull-out connection on each side between the lower solid tent wall and fly to volumize the interior. Good idea but doesn’t work so well in practice. Anyone who has tried this knows what I mean. I just attach a cord with a line-loc tensioner (I love those things) from the tab at the junction of the lower solid wall and upper mesh out to the stake that tensions the vestibule. You can adjust the lower side walls to vertical or a bit past and it stays there. It makes the tent huge!!! inside. Please note this works well for solo use as my pack is inside the tent, but it does make access under the fly a bit of a nuisance, but still accessable.
I’ve modified the above a bit by eliminating the long cord and making space under the vestibule more accessible. For just over an ounce (OMG) I use a vertical strut sitting on the ground connected to the tab at the top of the pocket and anchor it to the ground with n ultralite needle stake about 2″ out from the base of the strut. It holds the lower tent walls vertical, even with stuff in the pockets, increasing interior volume greatly. Direct connection to the fly is totally eliminated. Using an idea from the MSR Nook, I made a short webbing adapter with a grommet and Velcro, to attach a hiking pole to the bottom of the Hornets rear pole. Ends of the tent body and fly are attached to the pole ends and we have a FULLY FREESTANDING Hornet. A nice feature for tent platforms, sand, rocky shallow soil, etc, etc.
Jim can you send me a pic of the two modifications described above. I am trying to figure how to get a more vertical wall.
I purchased this tent for a hiking trip in the French Alps. Every time it rained hard I got wet inside. The high cut fly, the “air vent”, lets a lot of moisture inside.
The lightweight fabric used on the fly also tore the second night of the trip.
Sounds like a stupid light choice. I’d have recommended a more wind worthy and substantial tent for higher elevation hiking in the alps. You can’t expect an ultralight tent to perform like a mountaineering tent in more challenging conditions.
That’s funny how many said that they hate the colour, and the colour attracted me to this. Unfortunately i didn’t read enough reviews and didn’t knew is not so good in rain, although i could guess that if compared with an ultralight rain/wind jacket from Patagonia which is just rubbish. I think it will be killer to go to Lofoten with this but I’m not cancelling the order, i’ll use it in gentle weather, i’ll stick to my Robens Starlight for this trip, which stands any weather for twice the weight.
As a proud owner of this tent as well as its main rival, the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2, I can attest to its amazingness. Has held up magnificently under massive Sierra thunderstorms which sent rivers of water under and around the tent. The two doors are a godsend when I’m with my fiancée and the low low weight means I might just leave the tarp and bivy at home next time I’m solo as well.
Outperforms the Fly Creek for two people because of the double doors while maintaining the same weight. Other than that, when properly staked out they’re about the same for shedding wind and rain.
Last trip was with the kids in the Big Agnes and us in the Nemo getting mercilessly rained on and everyone had a great time snuggled up in the double walls listening to podcasts, reading comic books and playing cards (“luxury ultralight”).
If people complain cuz it’s too cold, a few extra ounces of down in a warmer quilt or sleeping bag are way better than a few extra pounds in a beefier tent.
Has anyone experienced leakage due to heavy, driving rain against the exposed inner wall at the head? Hydrostatic pressure on thin fabric concerns.
Yes, I have. See my comments below.
Pat
I used this tent with my girlfriend for 3 months this summer while thru-hiking. I have to say that overall I was disappointed but probably not for the reasons expected. The get to 2 pounds this surely is a small tent for 2 people but that is to be expected and we were fine with that. I had 2 main issues:
1) The bathtub floor extends up very high and is made of silnylon and not mesh. What this meant for us is than in a rain storm (100% humidity) or a heavy condensation night the inside of the bathtub floor walls would get soaked. Since the tent is so small (especially at the foootbox) it’s impossible for 2 people to not touch the silnylon sides (constantly) and get your down sleeping bag footbox soaked. I get that they made the walls from silnylon and not mesh to prevent splashing/misting but we got wet several times because of this. Not really acceptable in a double wall tent.
2) 10D silnylon is just really too thin for a thru-hiking tent floor. I won’t say I babied it, but I also didn’t abuse it and it got a ton of small tears. They were easily taped with a small piece of tenacious tape but they just kept coming every few days. Also, the mesh tore in one of the upper corners at a pull out. I get that this is the only way to get to 2 pounds but I’d much rather have Cuban which although way more expensive, is much more durable. This was the lesser of the issues which i could have lived with had #1 not been present.
Otherwise the tent was great. We could split the weight, we didn’t mind how small it was, it pitched super easy and the rest of the design I liked. But I would never use it again because of the above 2 factors.
Not all cuben is more durable. It depends on the thickness and composition. For example, a 30D silnylon Tarptent floor would have probably lasted for your thru-hike at a fraction of the price of the Hornet 2P.
I own this tent,and it is a total disappointment. The main issue is the high cut air vent. When it rain water drips on the inner tent, and after a while the inside of the tent gets wet. I’ve always had condensation on the inner tent even when it didn’t rain. Also pitching it with the footprint is not intuitive. Compared to my previous tent it takes quite some time.
I don’t doubt that you don’t like this tent, but internal condensation occurs even when it’s not raining. Suggest you read this article I wrote about it. People blame their tents when in fact it’s an unavoidable law of nature. https://sectionhiker.com/backpacking-how-to-prevent-tent-condensation/
Hi Philip!
Thank you for your reply. Very informative article! Maybe I should have been more precise. In this tent condensation collects on the inner tent. I am used to condensation on the rainfly. In this case with a BA Fly Creek the inside was never wet. My first point (water dripping on the mesh) is not about condensation.
Your review although a few years old, still helps us newcomers. Thank you!
I purchased this tent and used it to solo camp on a local peak that’s known for being very windy. Set up was very fast and easy even if I missed your recommendation about guying out the body first before putting the poles through the grommets.
Through good spot selection it held fast and stable despite the high winds.
I disagree about it being a 2P tent. My wife and I bought this and an REI QD2 to compare in our living room to see which one we shall keep and it was too cozy, with low volume and no room for anything else. However, I saw the potential as a 1P tent so we kept both.
I highly recommend this over the 1P model for solo outings. There was plenty of room for me, my pack and my gear inside.
One of the most important things to note with this tent is, it’s NOT waterproof. Water seeps through the lightweight 15P base material. I have used this tent on two hikes through the French alps, and I have had some very wet nights. I can’t use this tent anymore, so sick of having a wet sleeping bag.
It’s waterproof for me. I suggest you contact NEMO and get a replacement if you have a defective product (they have a lifetime guarantee). Are you sure it’s not internal condensation. I don’t know what elevation you’re sleeping at or if you have selected good campsites, but those are often the culprits in such cases.
https://sectionhiker.com/backpacking-how-to-prevent-tent-condensation/