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  1. dave
    November 17, 2011

    Could you show the inside? I'm curious how the paddle/pole setup works.

  2. Jeff
    November 17, 2011

    I realize that the ideal of using a tarp is to limit weight, but this seems to leave you at the mercy of the bugs. Given the shape of this tarp, how much weight would really be added with a reasonably light tent that keeps the bugs out.

  3. Bryan
    November 17, 2011

    @Dave – After I finished the trip, I realized that I didn't take any pictures of the inside of the tarp with my gear, etc… So, unfortunately, I don't have a picture of the paddle/pole adapter. I plan on doing a follow-up review after I get 30 days in the tarp. I'll make sure to get pictures then.

    @Jeff – There are no bugs in the BWCA during early May or mid to late Sept or Oct. At least not any that you need to worry about. I wouldn't use this during bug season unless I had a bug netting installed. There are two options: a full interior or bug netting sewn around the tarp's perimeter. A one-person bug net interior for the Luna 2 weighs 9.5 oz. So, that's 29.5 oz. With a two-person bug net interior the Luna 2 weighs 34 oz. The Luna 4 plus a four-person interior is 47 oz. A pole jack weighs 2 oz. I don't know what perimeter bug netting would weigh. Maybe 2 to 4 oz.?

    I the past during bug season, I've used either a Big Agnes Seedhouse SL (tent) or a Tarptent Cloudburst 2. The Cloudburst 2 is 38 oz. The Seedhouse is 54 oz.

    Luna 2 + 1 person interior = 29.5 oz. (+2 oz. pole jack if needed +1 oz. paddle adapter)

    Luna 2 + 2 person interior = 34 oz. (+2 oz. pole jack if needed +1 oz. paddle adapter)

    Cloudburst 2 = 38 oz.

    Luna 4 + 4 person interior = 47 oz.

    Seedhouse SL 2 = 54 oz.

    You end up saving over 1 lb. and get more room.

  4. Jim Muller
    November 21, 2011

    I have used a Black Diamond MegaMid tent. I find the weight savings to be modest since I usually bring a ground cloth or space blanket for under the sleeping bags. In the summer it isn't bug proof.

    It works best for winter camping – it easily accommodates 3 people and can be vented by lifting a side and/or leaving the door slightly unzipped.

  5. Grandpa
    November 21, 2011

    I have a BD MegaMid also and used it while winter camping with my brother and sister in law. I plan to use it to take the grandkids backpacking this week. My eight year old grandson is an old hand at backpacking but his fourteen year old half brother hasn't gotten to go yet. His brother is really looking forward to this trip. The fourteen year old is my size so he'll fit in my spare gear and clothes. With the MegaMid, we'll have plenty of room for the three of us. It would be tight with my Tarptent.

  6. Tobit
    January 2, 2012

    I just worked with John @ BearPaw on a custom Luna4 with a stove jack. He completed the shelter in less than 10 days and it looks great. I am using it with a Titanium Goat 12" Cylinder stove. I hope to get out to the woods with it soon. Thanks Bryan for this review. Pic: http://i43.tinypic.com/ao2n40.jpg

  7. Tjaard
    September 21, 2012

    RE: paddle hassles: What about making a lightweight adapter that get’s it up to the full height in one go, no rocks etc needed?

    Or, just string it up. In our last 8 camping trips in MN and WI with my family’s Hex pyramid we haven’t brought a pole, just 50′ of cord. We either hang it from a nice branch overhead or run the cord between two trees and use that. Weighs almost nothing but makes for a bit more hassle setting up.

    The weight savings are great:
    A 4 person mid with inner tent weighs about 41 oz, plus maybe 2 oz of hanging cord.
    My Emerald Mtn SL3 weighs 86 oz!
    A TT Hogback is listed as 62 oz

    There are pro’s and con’s to any shelter, but It’s hard to beat something that doesn’t require a dedicated pole in the weight department.

  8. wes
    November 14, 2012

    Check this 15oz tent out, 2oz more than this tarp and provides bug protection.

    http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/tents/ssX.html

    • Earlylite
      November 14, 2012

      The Luna is bigger (for 2), more wind resistant, and doesn’t need hiking poles to pitch. Weight is not everything, you need to consider function.

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